Very
Misleading (Wrong) Viral Post About CPP Thanks to Stacey for this. The original
rant is in Italics and the correction is normal font
Some guy
wrote a thing about CPP, but he thinks CPP is OAS or something and about 80,000
people have shared his post. Everything he claims in his rant is incorrect, so
I figured I would set the record straight and like 8 people will share it and I
will make a huge difference. My comments and correct figures are in BOLD.
OLD AGE
PENSION QUIETLY CHANGED TO FEDERAL PAYMENT BENEFIT
The Old
Age Pension cheque is now (or soon will be) referred to as a "Federal
Benefit Payment?" This is what Social Security (USA) changed its name to
and has nothing to do with Canada. I'll be part of the one percent to forward
this. I am forwarding it because it touches a nerve in me, and I hope it will
in you. Please keep passing it on until everyone in our country has read it.
Your note
being shared 80,000 times and your complete lack of correct information in your
post touches a nerve in me.
The
government is now referring to our Old Age Pension cheques as a "Federal
Benefit Payment." This isn't a benefit.
It is our
money paid out of our earned income! Not only did we all contribute to our pension,
but our employers did too.
It
totalled 15% of our income before taxes.
Old Age
Security is a benefit for all Canadians who live in Canada for at least 10
years after 18 and has nothing to do with how much you paid into it. He is
talking about CPP (The Canada Pension Plan) and employees and employers paid
4.95% of their salary, so a total of 9.9%/year. This year (2019) it is going up
to 5.10% (10.2% Total)
If you
averaged $30K per year over your working life, that's close to $180,000
invested in a pension.
You don’t
pay anything on the first $3,500 you make, so if we assume a working career is
40 years and the person made $30,000/year, then the number is now $104,940.
If you
calculate the future value of your monthly investment in a pension ($375/month,
including both you and your employer's contributions) at a meagre 1% interest
rate compounded monthly, after 40 years of working you'd have more than $1.3+
million dollars saved!
So, now the
savings for this person are $219/month for 40 years and the actual value if
that person got a 1% rate of return would be:
$219/month =
$129,293
$375/month =
$221,394 (he’s just a little off)
Unless he
thinks a meagre interest-rate is above 12%/year. I’d be pumped if I could find
a way to make it so my clients could easily turn a small monthly investment
into $1.3 million so easily.
This is
your personal investment. Upon retirement, if you took out only 3% per year,
you'd receive $39,318 per year or $3,277 per month.
Now, let’s
use the real numbers and keep his sweet rate of return of 1% and assume a
person needs money from 65 – 90.
$221,394 =
$834/month (not indexed to inflation, which CPP is)
$129,293 =
$487/month (not indexed to inflation again)
That's three
times more than today's average Old Age Pension benefit of $1,230 per month.
(WHO AKES
$1,230 MONTH??) NOT MY PENSION!!
Someone who
made over 30,000 for the years between 18 and 65, minus their worst 8 earning
years would get CPP of $1,230/month.
Once again,
he is talking about CPP. OAS pays out $601.45/month to anyone who has lived in
Canada for 40 years after turning 18.
It is not
even close to 3 times what CPP pays. Someone who made $30,000 their working
life would get about 55% CPP due to not fully funding it, so they would be
entitled to about $677/month, but that would go up every year as their dollars
become worth less over time, plus they would get $601.45/month from OAS.
And your
retirement fund would last more than 33 years (until you're 98 if you retire at
age 65)! I can only imagine how much better most average-income people could
live in retirement if our government had just invested our money in low-risk
interest-earning accounts.
No it
wouldn’t
Instead,
the folks in Ottawa pulled off a bigger "Ponzi scheme" than Bernie
Madoff ever did. They took our money and used it elsewhere. They forgot (oh
yes, they knew) that it was OUR money they were taking. They didn't have a
referendum to ask us if we wanted to lend the money to them. And they didn't
pay interest on the debt they assumed. And recently they've told us that the
money won't support us for very much longer.
CPP is not
invested or managed by the government. A private team of portfolio managers
invest this money on our behalf and try to make safe, but good returns in order
to keep the plan solvent. The government can’t just borrow money out of this
fund. It is well invested and there were concerns after the 2008 financial
crisis, but the plan appears to be in good shape for the time being. You can
google it and find out how and where the money is invested and who handles the
money.
But is it
our fault they misused our investments? And now, to add insult to injury,
they're calling it a "benefit", as if we never worked to earn every
penny of it.
Again,
that’s an American term and when and where did they misuse our Pension Fund?
Just
because they borrowed the money doesn't mean that our investments were a
charity!
Let's
take a stand. We have earned our right to our pensions. Demand that our MP's
bring some sense into our government.
You will get
the CPP amount you are entitled to and if you’re destitute in retirement, you
will get GIS (Guaranteed Income Supplement) too.
Find a
way to keep Old Age Pension going for the sake of that 92% of our population
who need it.
It is still
going, and they are enhancing it because most Canadians don’t save enough for
themselves.
Then call
it what it is: Our Earned Retirement Income.
It’s called
the “Canada Pension Plan.”
99% of
people won't SHARE this. Will you?
0% of people
should have shared your message, because it was full of completely incorrect
information. However, I think like 80,000 shared it, so that’s good news.
Just because
someone goes on a rant on Facebook about something that makes you feel anger,
doesn’t mean that person has their facts straight. Unfortunately, this person’s
message got a lot of traction and it would have been a lot better for Canadians
if it didn’t.
Thanks for
reading.